tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15040772.post4588599885590850110..comments2023-11-03T01:35:04.318-07:00Comments on Bells On: Exit liberatorsvikkitikkitavihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01501311175482530001noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15040772.post-42040120951302010552007-11-07T08:19:00.000-08:002007-11-07T08:19:00.000-08:00SO WAIT ALL NATIONS..."It is our presence there cr...SO WAIT ALL NATIONS...<BR/><BR/>"It is our presence there creates<BR/>The problem"--now declared<BR/>In Britain, as a nation waits<BR/>That now becomes prepared<BR/>To leave that place<BR/>While trying to save face.<BR/><BR/>Each from his angle understands<BR/>Uniquely--very well--<BR/>The problem fluttering out of hands,<BR/>Debacle, terrible<BR/>Is serious flawed,<BR/>Because of so much fraud:<BR/><BR/>Save those as have an interest in<BR/>Prolonging the defeat,<BR/>These see a kind of "might have been"<BR/>From which word of retreat<BR/>Implies a route<BR/>To numbness absolute.<BR/><BR/>Annihilation, nullity,<BR/>Negation of illusion,<BR/>Therefore they strive, communally<BR/>To keep, as by profusion<BR/>Colluding tunes<BR/>As enigmatic runes.<BR/><BR/>None likes to have revealed to all<BR/>But mostly to himself,<BR/>The evidence of fraud; will crawl<BR/>To some high upper shelf<BR/>In consciousness<BR/>So to avoid soul´s mess.<BR/><BR/>Confession of the horror is<BR/>A difficulty always,<BR/>When lingers like the stench of piss<BR/>One´s shame in hidden hallways--<BR/>But so things are<BR/>When waging unjust war.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15040772.post-8445824071775418662007-05-20T18:56:00.000-07:002007-05-20T18:56:00.000-07:00I'm resisting the "pull out" jokes because this is...I'm resisting the "pull out" jokes because this is a serious topic. Bring 'em home, all the way home.GETkristiLOVEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03873004576844292852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15040772.post-43525250115734898522007-05-20T12:20:00.000-07:002007-05-20T12:20:00.000-07:00Amen. Let's bring them home.Amen. Let's bring them home.Johnny Yenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06561248220244037567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15040772.post-34198600686207900162007-05-19T08:49:00.000-07:002007-05-19T08:49:00.000-07:00Wait, didn't I hear something about victory back w...Wait, didn't I hear something about victory back when the US troops took Bagdad? Oh, my mistake, I believe the term was 'mission accomplished'.<BR/><BR/>But how can the term accomplished be used when there is no defined objective? Was the objective to get WMDs? (uh, no cause there weren't any) Was it to catch and try Hussien? Was it to put the "right" Iraqis in place in government? What constitutes victory, mission accomplished, or even a simple, "We got the job done." ?<BR/><BR/>True answer: We dunno.<BR/><BR/>Bushco painted the US into a corner with lies and now can't come up with the right lie to get us out. They have to find a lie that will justify an exit that says "victory", and there isn't one. <BR/><BR/>So.... Georgie W. will leave the problem for the next President to deal with, so he can exit with his ego in tact.<BR/><BR/>Mighty costly ego that jerk has, huh? (people's lives and tons of money). <BR/><BR/>But his ego is worth it. Just ask him.bubbleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04309024574089677684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15040772.post-67834400473977701222007-05-18T20:44:00.000-07:002007-05-18T20:44:00.000-07:00Past countries that have been "occupied" have had ...Past countries that have been "occupied" have had tribal related violence when the occupiers left. I don't think it matters when our troops leave, there will be violence. Since it doesn't matter when, do it now and reduce the anti-American sentiment in the middle east and the rest of the world and for the best reason of all, save lives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15040772.post-43465655898808586402007-05-18T16:44:00.000-07:002007-05-18T16:44:00.000-07:00I think our presence has become the most pressing ...I think our presence has become the most pressing cause for violence. Our clueless and ham-handed administration has managed to do just about everything to galvanize an insurgency effort.<BR/><BR/>So let's say we pull out. The reactionary violence dies down. And then, whether it's a hot topic for the US media or not, the lack of a common enemy turns Iraqi tribes against each other. And for all the infrastructure that's been trashed in our wake, you cannot possibly predict that peace is what will rush in to fill the vacuum. <BR/><BR/>I think we're past the point of that Pentagon report, which mostly restates a position paper funded by the RAND Corporation and co-authored by GHWB, shortly after his presidency. What we've got now, I think, is no-win.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10336139330853842534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15040772.post-63069169283038656482007-05-18T14:51:00.000-07:002007-05-18T14:51:00.000-07:00Grant: Shall I assume that all the resources of Gr...Grant: Shall I assume that all the resources of Grant Miller Media are behind you on this? Because that would be awesome.<BR/><BR/>SkyDad: I'd like to test it by bugging the fuck out and home, right this fucking second. But we won't, not until we can somehow redefine what's going on into something called "victory."vikkitikkitavihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01501311175482530001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15040772.post-85735167173278357032007-05-18T14:10:00.000-07:002007-05-18T14:10:00.000-07:00I would like to test the theory by pulling them al...I would like to test the theory by pulling them all back at least into Kuwait. What could it hurt?<BR/><BR/>If violence goes down, like we think it will, then the troops are in a relatively safe area for a pullout.SkylersDadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18264164502733912326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15040772.post-62230515953188107162007-05-18T13:58:00.000-07:002007-05-18T13:58:00.000-07:00Two or three years ago, I thought the answer was m...Two or three years ago, I thought the answer was more troops, etc. Not that I was for the war, but thought if we want things to calm down and go more smoothly, we needed more "boots one the ground."<BR/><BR/>I now think the opposite is true.Moderatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02318879290010704973noreply@blogger.com